This another topic about the chat talk series , i made a topic each time i see 2 member have 2 diffrent opinion talk without stopping in the chat
this time the talk was bettwen EvilShenron3 and DancePrincess about chian burn consider as meta or no

EvilShenron3 say :

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DancePrincess say :

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for me i think :

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so what you think , post in the topic and vote in the poll

If it tops a ycs then it is in all technicallity meta. Just because it can stop opponents plays doesnt make it anti-meta, because of the way that it stops them.

So with all technicallity kept in mind by standards it would be a meta deck if it has topped ycs.
In my opinion it doesnt matter if it is meta or not, if you use it you are too obsessed with winning and just need to gtfo the game. It is a game, you are supposed to play it for fun, and chain burn is all about winning, there is no fun in playing it. Stupid noobs

lol but can be anti-meta so ^^

I think people should read my post on the definition of meta

something being meta has nothing to do with how good it is, if its meta that means that it is a deck you see a LOT and decide to change your deck based around it. if you do that, then it becomes meta. So heros are definitely meta, they are also anti-meta. Chain burn is meta because you always see at least 1 in any tournament you ever play in.

Still one of the noobiest decks ive seen out there.

lol hence why oyu always see some of it xD

the thing to evaluate here is...
is stun considered anti-meta?
that is the issue at hand. if you consider stun to be a deck of its own, that can stand alone against "non-meta" decks, then yes, chain burn would be a deck of its own.

anti-meta means, to counter the meta, if chain burn works alone by itself without necessarily countering specific meta decks, then therefore the argument that it is anti-meta and therefore cannot be meta would not stand.
chain burn works on its own, therefore chain burn is not necessarily "anti-meta"

and even if chain burn were to be anti-meta, that doesnt stop it from being "meta"
you can be "anti-meta" as in a deck used to counter the current format
and also meta, a deck that is a successful deck that is used a fair amount of times in the format

TL;DR anti-meta can be successful and used a fair amount of times in a format. being used successfully a fair amount of times equates to being a used deck in the format, hence "meta", so anti-meta is not independent of "meta", it can be both

hmm a lot of ideas and btw chess not sure if you can double post , your post was 6 min away from the first one you should edit the first one

I stand by my belief that if a deck tops at multiple YCS in a row it is meta

hmm look like we have some good ideas in here ^^ let see what the poll well say

@DP, i stand by the fact that topping ycs doesnt make a deck meta. for example, if a deck got top32 once in toronto and has never been seen since, is it still meta? also, if youre going by what tops YCS why dont you have agents on their? alistar albans top16's and Simon He top8'd. And a few others topped with it.

I said multiple times in a row not once "...." not just at once ycs

cheesfactory wrote:

@DP, i stand by the fact that topping ycs doesnt make a deck meta. for example, if a deck got top32 once in toronto and has never been seen since, is it still meta? also, if youre going by what tops YCS why dont you have agents on their? alistar albans top16's and Simon He top8'd. And a few others topped with it.

so why isn't it on there, then?

Vivus et Sanus wrote:

cheesfactory wrote:

@DP, i stand by the fact that topping ycs doesnt make a deck meta. for example, if a deck got top32 once in toronto and has never been seen since, is it still meta? also, if youre going by what tops YCS why dont you have agents on their? alistar albans top16's and Simon He top8'd. And a few others topped with it.

so why isn't it on there, then?

What is topping? What are agents?
Good, let's not add it to the list, forget about those agent decks.
(hehehe, lets just ignore billy brake thanks guys, im happy)
inb4 twi says ewww

if you want to talk , mermail atlantas are broken too , why dont we add them to the list too

bcuz they havnt topped ycs...?

maybe but they are stell broken

broken=/=meta thats far from the definition xD

we'll see next ycs if
broken = topping ycs
and also fairly represented

well right , but that depend if someone use them in it ^^

atlantia topped at ycs but not with mermails XD they topped with the genex engine

i said atlantia mermail is broken , didnt say atlantia alone is broken

same shit the otk for mermail atlantia runs off the atlantean strength therefore mermails are the support engine to get their otk placed

you know you can otk without mermails you know...
diva birdman 2 card otk